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Should Amish Buggies Be Required to Have Reflectors? Save Email Print
Posted: 6:59 PM Jan 31, 2008
Last Updated: 8:22 PM Jan 31, 2008
Reporter: Forrest Sanders
Email Address: forrest.sanders@wbko.com

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Noah Yorder of the Amish community is the uncle of 20 year old Delila Gingerich. Wednesday, a 2002 Chevy Avalance struck the back of Delila's buggy on highway 1297, an incident that sent Delila flying several feet, breaking her neck.

"We're sorry about it," says Noah. "But we also don't hold a grudge against the one who did this to her. We think, it might have been planned from God."

It's an incident that calls into question the safety of buggies traveling these roads and if drivers need better warnings of their presence.

"There's actually three or four different types of Amish groups in the Glasgow area and the one that had the accident is the strictest group, Swartzentruber Amish," explains Glasgow resident Ruth Irene Garrett.

Ruth grew up in an Amish community herself and explains that each community operates under an ordinance. For this particular group, the ordinance dictates; no running water, no indoor plumbing, and seemingly no reflector tape on the buggies.

The sheriff's department says the buggy involved in the accident was too damaged to find out whether or not there were reflectors on the back.

According to Ruth, the Amish community is unlikely to comply with a request to use reflectors citing religious freedom.

"If something unfortunate happens like this, it's God's will and it was meant to be and they're not going to change their particular beliefs to compromise that," Ruth explains.

And with no foreseeable law being put into place, area police are warning drivers to stay focused on the roads.

"Especially when they see the horse drawn carriage advisory signs, you really have to pay attention or this is going to happen a lot more," says Deputy Chad Polland of the Barren County Sheriff's Department.

Delila Gingerich is currently being treated at the University of Louisville hospital.

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Posted by: Lusefer Location: Mailbuo on Apr 30, 2008 at 06:47 AM
yes

Posted by: Cory Location: Virginia on Feb 8, 2008 at 03:36 PM
Here are the facts: The Amish DO pay taxes for roads. They also pay taxes for public schools, which they do not use. They take much less from the tax money they put in. Their buggies contribute substantially less pollution than any of our motor vehicles. Transportation networks should be designed to accomodate all modes of transportation and not be bias in favor of those who choose to travel by single-occupied vehicle, which is also a major cause of pollution, sprawl, fast food, and congestion. And, after all, buggies (as well as pedestrians, bicycles, trains, and trollies) were here first. There is also no conclusive evidence that visibility is the primary or even a major cause for accidents, yet much hype is made over it. What existing research that does exist would suggest that motor vehicle driver inattentiveness, carelessness, and impatience are the top reasons motor vehicles strike buggies, not visibility. Garvey (2003) found that grey tape is superior to the SMV emblem.

Posted by: Andy Faller Location: Red Cross on Feb 4, 2008 at 07:31 AM
If you will look at the video posted for this story you will see the reflective tape on the axles and the perimeter of the back of the body of the buggy shown at the end of the story. All of the buggies in this local Amish community already have reflective tape on the rear. It is hard to see in the daytime as it is only reflective at night when headlights shine on it.

Posted by: Al Location: Pa on Feb 3, 2008 at 10:43 PM
Absolutely they should be required to have reflectors, lights and a strobe light on top. The Amish by me have all these and you can see them for miles. Just because some Amish have a death wish does not mean they can wish it on everyone else. The roads are paid for with highway tax dollars and made for motor vehicles. If the Amish don't want to follow the rules, they should use roads that are not public.

Posted by: sue Location: Glasgow on Feb 2, 2008 at 08:51 PM
All drivers did to pay attention to everything around them, but I think if the amish are going to use the roads they should be paying taxes like the rest of us to pay for the roads. I respect the amish's religous beliefs,but I think they have alot of double standards. Sometimes it okay to use modern conveniences and other times its not. If they want to use our good roads than they need to follow the rules and help pay for them. The situation could have been the opposite the person driving the car could have been seriously injured on a road she is legally able to drive on. Would any fault be put on the amish?

Posted by: Tammy Location: Bowling Green on Feb 2, 2008 at 01:44 AM
I grew up in that area and I cant tell you how many times I have come up on a buggie in the late evening. I understand they have to travel but they need to use more lights/lanterns AND reflectors. Its a miracle there have not been more accidents of this nature on 1297.

Posted by: stan Location: metcalfe on Feb 1, 2008 at 07:39 PM
our amish in our comunity use slow moving signs,,and flashers they should not be allowed to have buggys on the road at night with out lights.i dont think god would set one group diffrent from another.if you walk on the black top roads you would see how the horse shoes tear up the black top. it takes our tax money to repair our roads. ps you cannot stop a 3500 lb car in a short distance.

Posted by: J Location: Glasgow on Feb 1, 2008 at 06:33 PM
While I respect the Amish as God's children, I feel they are using their religion to avoid conformity with the law. Allowing people to drive on public highways in unmarked, black buggies without any lights or reflectors because their religion prevents the application of such safety devices seems to be discriminatory. If people want to claim religious exception to the laws that are put in place to protect them and others, maybe they should consider hiring someone to drive them on their shopping trips and leave the horses and buggies safely at home. If those of us who pay the taxes on and maintain our vehicles and highways are made to share the highways with these horse drawn vehicles, then there should be more emphasis put on making them as visible as possible. Otherwise, we can expect more tragic accidents to happen.

Posted by: Anonymous Location: OFF HWY 1297 in Smiths Grove on Feb 1, 2008 at 06:27 PM
We who live here in the heavily populated Amish Communities, know many of these folks. Many have these reflectors on their buggies. It would NOT have prevented this terrible accident. IT WAS DAYLIGHT. The accidents that have occurred in the past, also IN THE DAYLIGHT HOURS. People are driving like maniacs on Hwy 1297 and Hwy 68/80. The driver was not paying attention! People driving on these road should realize that they don't OWN the road, there are other passengers! It very well could have been somebody's grandma at the mailbox.

Posted by: Barbara Location: Glasgow on Feb 1, 2008 at 06:25 PM
I think if we have laws to abide by on our roads then everyone one should have to abide by those laws. If one person has to have tags, working brake lights, turn signals, and seat belts then everyone should abide by those laws. Alot of us think it is our choice to wear a seat belt or not, but we have to abide by the laws. The Omish live in this state just like we do, they should have the same laws.

Posted by: sandra-d Location: bowling green on Feb 1, 2008 at 06:24 PM
I am a working taxer payer and obey the law of our roads.I feel the Amish want to operate their buggies on the roads my tax dollars help fund they should have to obey the same laws that I have to abide by they should have lights on them and abide by the speed limits of the road or not be on the road. How quick would I get a ticket if my SUV didn't have lights or was driving 10mph in a 55mph speed zone?

Posted by: Jack Location: Alvaton on Feb 1, 2008 at 06:19 PM
Although I respect the Amish Right to live the way they do, I also think that if they use state and county roads they must have a way to be visible by others. Farm machinery and trailers all have to have wanings lights or markers so I see no difference in a buggy. What if someone in a car gets killed because because an Amish buggy with no visible lights or tape causes a accident. Would people think differently then?

Posted by: Andy Location: Red Cross on Feb 1, 2008 at 06:02 PM
I live on 1297 and have been neighbors and friends with the Amish family in question. I have known Delila Gingrich and her father for 15 years. He loves his family and cares about their safety as much as any of you. They have always had reflectors on all of their buggies in the past. My wife passed Delila on her way to work that same morning before the crash. She saw the reflective tape on the back of Delila's buggy. The report says that the authorities could not tell if reflective tape was on the buggy. Don't be so quick to make a negative judgement about someone. I agree with the post from Jennifer from Scottsville. Someone driving sensibly and the speed limit will have time to see, recognize and avoid a buggy on this road. Or a bicyclist, pedestrian, horseback rider or mule wagon for that matter. All of these, as well as Amish buggies use this road frequently.

Posted by: Jennifer Location: Scottsville on Feb 1, 2008 at 02:50 PM
OK...so what good would it have done to have reflective tape on the back of this particular buggy? It was 7:30 IN THE MORNING when this accident happened. Daylight in most parts of the Commonwealth. The driver's lack of paying attention on a very curvy, very dangerous, very often travelled piece of highway caused this tragic accident. No amount of tape on the back of this buggy could have prevented the driver from driving like it was the Grand Prix for Avalanches! Get with the program and use some COMMON SENSE!!!!

Posted by: susan Location: glasgow on Feb 1, 2008 at 01:59 PM
I have to wear a seatbelt, have headlights, brake lights and workling turn signals. If they want to run buggies on roads paid for by my taxes, they should have to adhere to the same set of laws.

Posted by: S Location: Monroe County on Feb 1, 2008 at 12:43 PM
Anyone who lives around this area knows that the Amish travel by horse and buggy. HWY 1297 is heavily populated with Amish families. There are road signs warning drivers of the possibility of seeing a horse and buggy on the road. I think people should heed the signage and drive respectfully. If the religious practice of these people does not comply with reflectors then I don't feel as though they should be made to use them. (Across the US there are many signs that warn of deer crossing, but we don't make the deer wear reflectors drivers are expected to heed the rules of the road and common sense and watch for these dangers.) Most of the population doesn't understand the beliefs of the Amish community and many drivers think they are the only ones that belong on the roads. Before cars we all traveled by horse and buggy, just because the Amish don't believe in modernization we shouldn't force it on them. Our prayers are with Ms. Gingerich and her family

Posted by: S Location: Bowling Green on Feb 1, 2008 at 11:49 AM
I think if they are going to use the roads OUR tax money pays for, then they should be forced to use some kind of reflector or flashers.

Posted by: Kristy Location: glasgow, ky on Feb 1, 2008 at 11:48 AM
I strongly do believe that buggies DO need reflectors for better safety. Drivers who have vehicles have to have insurance or they will be fined and I know there will be no possible way to get insurance on horse & buggies, so the least they should have to do is put bright reflectors on the buggy. That is only fairness no matter what the religious beliefs may be. Didn't God give everyone some common sense? Would we drive our vehicles at dust or night time without the lights on?

Posted by: Dee Location: Scottsville on Feb 1, 2008 at 11:24 AM
Why shouldn't the amish be required to put reflectors on their buggies. I also feel that amish buggies should have a license plate and be required to pay taxes and license fees, after all, our vehicles don't leave piles of litter or wagon marks in the roads. The amish came to our state voluntarily and should have to follow KY state laws also, regardless of their beliefs.

Posted by: Judy Location: Leitchfield on Feb 1, 2008 at 10:06 AM
I would not want to undermine anyones' relegion or beliefs, but if they travel the roadways they should have to obey the laws everyone else has to. The people in the cars have to be protected also and they should know of danger ahead. If anyone doesen't comply with the laws of they road, they should not be allowed to travel on the road. Everyone in the cars have to pay taxes on then to be able to travel the roads. Do the owners of the buggies? Therefore everyone should obey the laws of the road.

Posted by: jeremy Location: morgantown on Feb 1, 2008 at 10:04 AM
if they think its to modern to use reflectors, than stay off the modern roads we pay taxes on and they dont

Posted by: Anonymous Location: Glasgow on Feb 1, 2008 at 09:28 AM
Amish Buggies shouldnt be allowed on pubic highways at all. It is just too dangerous for a buggy to be traveling on a 55 mph road. It doesn't matter if you are driving the speed limit or not. If you top a hill traveling 50 and there is a buggy right there, you might not have time to stop without having to swerve.

Posted by: T Location: Barren on Feb 1, 2008 at 09:21 AM
I have certain roads I try not to drive on because of this. Sometimes the accident is no one's fault because even if they have lights/reflectors on their buggies you still may not see them if you top a hill and there they are. Even speed wouldn't have much of a factor in this type of accident. I don't know if there is an answer for the risk involved. I do think they would be safer at night though.

Posted by: marvin miller Location: logan on Feb 1, 2008 at 08:57 AM
having reflectors on a buggy should not be an option,law requires all other vehicles that drive 15 mph under the speed limit to use flashers,so absolutely! after all,when a law is made,shouldn't it be made for everyone.

Posted by: Penny Location: Bowling Green on Feb 1, 2008 at 06:17 AM
I think that if the Amish community is going to use modern roads, then they need to use whatever means are neccessary to make sure they can be seen by the motorists on the road. It makes no sense to be on a road where vehicles travel at speeds of 55 or whatever the posted speed is and not have some kind of warning posted on their form of transportation!

Posted by: Pat Location: Barren County on Jan 31, 2008 at 10:26 PM
I live in in an area of an Amish community. The problem that I see the most of is people in vehicles driving too fast to begin with and not respecting the buggies enough to take the time to be patient when they get behind one. I have seen people pass them in areas of no passing and on backroads where it is too dangerous for all involved. I have lived here here for several years and I have never had the problem of actually following the speed limit or sharing the roads with buggies. I would like to beg the people who drive on the roads in Barren County to drive slower and be more careful of the people we share highways with because they have as much right as anyone else to be on them. My prayers are with the young lady, her family and her community.

Posted by: d Location: warren on Jan 31, 2008 at 08:56 PM
I believe drivers need to watch for the horse and buggies,and more signs needs to be put up for the Amish families.

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